Possibly following some reason towards the lengthened years instantly appearing in the the newest heraldry may come so you can white

Possibly following some reason towards the lengthened years instantly appearing in the the newest heraldry may come so you can white

In my opinion Tim would be post the goes through of one’s visualize in order to his web site, and will post you to relationship to brand new newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Fingers

connectivity of professionals, (the latest Wingfields was explored fairly well, and you can despite my personal typo for the Howard family unit members, I actually do feel the pedigree accurately annotated here in RI) >>

I am not sure this is exactly a precise statement. Do their publication address new age bracket *prior* to help you John Russell who age the mother and father off Age Russell exactly who yards Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn wife of Malise

You will find another to help you fill out a number of the gaps you reveal forthe higher-grandparents off Reginald le Cheyne. Among primaryadditions stems from his paternal grandmother (NN on your own article) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de Moray), sis and you can coheiress regarding Freskinde Moravia from Duffus (their particular parents Walter de- Moravia and you can Euphemia ofRoss are available lower than). You’ve got the matter regarding their maternalgrandmother: I keep she is actually Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd spouse of Malise,Earl out-of Strathearn. This will at the very least offer a close explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen regarding Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to have Helen de- Menteith, brother regarding Joanna and you will wife of Sir ColinCampbell away from Lochow (d. bef Can get 1343).

Unfortuitously, I think you will find extra gaps within the Muriel Keith’sancestry (look for below). Regarding both additions recommended on the tablesbelow, delight advise of any noted problems, otherwise exactly what documentationmight indicate any error detailed.

I’ve openings both in ancestries, however, fiercely where out of Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, her higher-grandparents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I am not saying conscious of one documents supporting the character regarding the partner once the Barbara Seton. When you yourself have noted one, please advise.

3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser partnered Mary Bruce (otherwise de Brus), together with an excellent young buck John recognized as ‘nepos’ of Robert _the_Bruce. So it child was a younger John, not, rather than his heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord regarding Aboyne, try new son of an initial wedding (so it partner unfamiliar; You will find it for the authority regarding Andrew MacEwen).

step 3 Walter de Moravia (son from Hugh de Moravia, and Annabela of Fife) 4 Euphemia regarding Ross (dau. of Fearchar, first Earl off Ross and you can NN deBrus)

5 Malise, sixth Earl off /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young buck away from Walter Stewart, Age of Menteith and you may

The latest consanguinity between Muriel Keith and you may Reginald le Cheyne -proven to had been a great-grandson of Malise, Earl out of Strathearn (d.1312) – ‘s the only evidence (if secondary) these a couple of individualshad a minumum of one predecessor/ancestress in keeping.

You will find gaps in both ancestries, however, fiercely for the reason that off Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their unique high-grand-parents We show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander of /Fraser/ PronaД‘i ViЕЎe Chamberlain from Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/eight NN Fraser8 NN

Getting Reginald le Cheney it is sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step three NN, 4 NN5 Malise, 6th Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, very early 15the century, in the Leicestershire. E are the fresh d Villiers and you may Agnes Beler. Today, I wish to connect Agnes so you’re able to Sir Roger Beler, slain because of the Eustace de- Folville, however, I can not find any factual statements about her. Is anyone assist?